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THE 14:24 GUEST HOUSE
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
14m 24s
"Don't you think I'm great?!
I love creating these images for you."
What follows is a transcript of a Zoom conversation
between me and my good friend Riki, a young woman in China who has, from time to time, trusted me to be her coach.
Ordinarily, I open our conversations with something like,
"Okay, Riki, what would you like to be different today?"
and she presents me with an issue.
Today, I decided to try something different:
I would simply wait, saying nothing,
to see how long it would take before she spoke.
We sat looking at each other in silence
until she finally offered an intelligible sentence.
It took about seven minutes.
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Dwight: Lady of the Hour.
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Riki: Hi.
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Riki: Hmm.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, uh-huh.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, guys.
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Riki: I, yeah, yeah, it's just.
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Riki: Let's see here…
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Riki: What do you…
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Riki: Oh.
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Riki: I…
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Riki: Ugh.
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Riki: Ah, yeah.
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Riki: Weird. Yeah. Hey.
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Riki: Hi, it's me.
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Riki: It's.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: It's…
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Riki: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess.
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Riki: How?
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Riki: Oh.
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Riki: Okay.
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Riki: I…
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Riki: Yeah, I don't.
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Riki: Oh, I don't know.
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Riki: Uh, say what?
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Riki: Even though I have some questions…
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Dwight: Okay.
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Dwight: I was, um…
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Riki: Okay.
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Dwight: I was testing to see how long I was willing to go before you were willing to speak.
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Dwight: ...before I rescued you, or if you would rescue yourself.
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Dwight: See, we waited seven minutes.
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Dwight: Without you saying anything.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Dwight: Yeah, I certainly enjoy these sessions, but what are these sessions for? These sessions are for you, right? Okay.
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Dwight: But you're not the fuck proactive.
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Dwight: You're about the most unproactive person I know.
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Dwight: It took you seven minutes to say, I've got some questions.
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Dwight: Where can I exit?
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, it's…
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Dwight: Waiting for life to happen to you.
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Dwight: Waiting for somebody else to take the lead.
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Dwight: Okay.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: Waiting to be rescued.
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Dwight: Waiting for somebody to make it comfortable for you.
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Dwight: Am I right?
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Riki: Yeah, yeah, you are right, yeah, it's.
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Dwight: Shall we try it again? See how long.
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Riki: Yeah, I got...
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Riki: Yes, it is.
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Riki: I think it's…
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Riki: Not just happening, you know, here, it's just.
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Dwight: Oh, it doesn't.
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Dwight: It affects your whole life, right? Probably all your relationships.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: Poor little girl, please rescue me. Please make me comfortable. Please don't make me speak up, say what I want.
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Riki: Uh, yeah, but…
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Riki: Yeah, I…
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Riki: I noticed this, but just…
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Riki: I even can not like.
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Dwight: Oh,
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Riki: faces.
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Dwight: You.
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Dwight: Of course you can. What do you mean you cannot? Of course you can speak up immediately.
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Dwight: What do you mean you can't speak up immediately?
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Dwight: That's a lie.
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Dwight: Yep.
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Dwight: Of course, you won't get what you want then. You won't get to be rescued then, you know.
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Dwight: You won't get to feel comfortable then.
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Dwight: You know.
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Riki: Yah.
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Dwight: This stuff, you're going to make up a story. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. It's a nice story. It's a lie.
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Dwight: You can do it, but it doesn't get what you want, it doesn't get what you want, you want, which is to be comfortable.
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Dwight: Be a safe, not stand out, you know, not.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: Wait, how to change it? This problem, you know, I…
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Dwight: Open your mouth.
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Dwight: That's all. Just open your mouth.
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Dwight: Choose courage.
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Dwight: Feel the fear.
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Dwight: I've answered that a thousand times. You know it.
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Dwight: Why do you think you're pretending you don't know it? You already know it.
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Dwight: See, that's another lie, thinking you don't already know.
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Dwight: You already know. You don't want to know.
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Dwight: It's a comfortable lie to yourself.
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Dwight: Well, you might make mistakes or whatever, but you know how.
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Dwight: Yeah, you take a risk, yeah, but you know how.
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Dwight: You step into the world of risk, yeah, but you know how.
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Riki: Oh.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Riki: But yeah.
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Riki: Psst.
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Riki: Yes.
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Dwight: You think there is a but?
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Dwight: Yeah, what your unstated desire is, is to be comfortable, have other people take care of you, you know, be rescued, not stand out.
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Dwight: Not take a risk, not get out here in the messy world.
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Dwight: Make mistakes and have people reject you, whatever, you know.
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Dwight: That's what you're committed to. You're doing a great job of it, especially. Yeah. And you're pretending what you pretend. Yeah.
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Dwight: That usually works with most people.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: You got it made, baby.
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Dwight: You say you want to change? You think you say you got a problem? No, you don't have a problem. You got all your problems solved.
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Dwight: You don't need to change a thing. You're doing fine. Yeah, there's cost to it.
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Dwight: Comfort of it.
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Dwight: No, yeah, you know how to do it. Yeah. No risk here.
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Riki: Oh.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Riki: I yeah yeah yeah.
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Riki: It it's.
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Riki: I, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I, I, I kind of know, I kind, I lie to myself because I, you know, I have some question and one of it's.
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Riki: Totally, you know, opposite of this, like.
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Riki: Yeah, but same time I realize.
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Riki: It's.
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Dwight: Yeah, and you can even say, I realize, I realize, I know, I know, and then no action.
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Dwight: The more safe stuff.
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Riki: Oh.
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Dwight: Or more feeling safe stuff. I shouldn't say it's safe. More feeling safe stuff.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Dwight: And you have the life you want, but you don't have the life you really want.
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Dwight: Because that's too fucking risky.
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Dwight: Too much rejection, too much making mistakes, too much bungling around in the dark, trying to figure things out.
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Riki: Oh.
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Dwight: You got it made, baby.
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Dwight: Guess where you are.
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Dwight: Just the way you already do it.
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Dwight: Even including this.
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Dwight: conversations with me where you…
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Dwight: ...get things handed to you, but you never really take action.
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Dwight: Yeah.
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Riki: Okay.
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Dwight: You even trigger my, "Oh, I rescue people." identity. Yeah, okay.
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Dwight: I help people.
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Dwight: Where people didn't need my help.
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Dwight: What if they already know?
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Dwight: It's all just a pretense we're going through, that they need my help, but they already know.
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Dwight: Boy, then I'm really cooked, aren't I?
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Riki: Yeah, I…
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Dwight: But you have the best of them fooled.
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Dwight: Masterful you are.
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Dwight: Why would you want to give that up?
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Riki: Yeah, but yeah.
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Dwight: Yeah, it's suffering involved, but why would you want to give it up? So many benefits.
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Riki: Oh, you can see.
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Dwight: And you're good at it, you know, you don't have to stumble around with something you're not good at.
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Riki: Yeah, it's just most people actually.
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Riki: Yeah, I.
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Riki: I…
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Dwight: Oh, you got plenty of company, plenty of company. Almost everybody would totally agree with you.
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Dwight: Or play into your game of "I don't know."
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Dwight: you know, needing rescue and all that stuff. Yeah.
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Riki: Oh.
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Dwight: Being this…
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Dwight: Help this little girl, you know.
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Dwight: Trying her best.
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Dwight: Struggling.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Dwight: Okay.
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Dwight: You got what you want.
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Dwight: Including pretending, involve pretending.
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Dwight: Because you know what the other — if you really got what you say you want, that would be ah, what you say.
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Dwight: you want, which is not what you really want.
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Dwight: Like, that would be…
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Dwight: Too risky, too… trying to figure out what to do around a very murky, darky room, you know? You know, a whole new world out there.
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Dwight: Risk.
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Dwight: Getting hurt, maybe hurting others.
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Dwight: All sorts of stuff like that and doing it open-eyed.
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Riki: Oh.
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Dwight: But you've got a lot better.
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Dwight: At least you think.
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Dwight: Okay.
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Riki: There you go.
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Dwight: Comfortably uncomfortable.
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Dwight: Yeah, it's uncomfortable. You're comfortable with the uncomfortableness.
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Dwight: It's a type of uncomfortableness. You're OK with it. It's a small price to pay, you think.
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Dwight: for that.
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Riki: Yep.
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Dwight: scary, risky world out there, you know, of opening your mouth first.
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Dwight: Saying what you want and saying what you're going to do, what you're not going to do.
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Riki: Are are you?
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Riki: I…
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Riki: It's.
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Riki: I just judge.
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Riki: I just, you know, actually, you know.
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Riki: I don't know if I, you know, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, I, yeah, it's risky, so I.
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Riki: Prefer not to speaking and not to, you know, pretending and lie to myself.
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Riki: Yeah, a bit.
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Riki: Uh, I…
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Dwight: Yeah, and all that's just description. No action, no say you're going to action. See, all that's just description. You're still inside of it. Even when you describe it, you're still inside of it. You can see it.
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Riki: Yeah, I…
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Riki: No.
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Dwight: You think you see it crystal clear, and you're still inside of it. Step outside, yeah.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah, it's.
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Dwight: That's fun. Yeah, you can even acknowledge it. You can even look wise, you know.
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Dwight: Yeah, you're still inside.
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Dwight: Feel inside the bars.
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Dwight: It's…
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Dwight: You can even acknowledge the bars, you know, acknowledge the lies.
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Dwight: And you'll go back to it.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah, it's.
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Dwight: Yeah, even right now, you're still, in some sense, you're still lying because you're not, you acknowledge that they're bars, but you're not stepping out.
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Dwight: You know.
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Riki: Like, yeah.
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Riki: Even, yeah, yeah, I can't, yeah, I, you know.
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Dwight: Can you?
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Riki: It's.
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Riki: Yeah, sorry, there is a story, you know, just.
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Riki: you…
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Riki: Why speak of, you know, sometimes I, uh…
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Riki: Ah, say something and.
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Riki: make other people uncomfortable. So, you know, like they, they feel.
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Riki: Yeah, and.
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Riki: So…
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Dwight: Yes, of course. So what's new in the world?
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Riki: Yeah!
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Dwight: People speak up and make other people feel comfortable.
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Riki: I would, oh yeah, I would.
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Dwight: So what? I mean, how is that relevant to anything we're saying?
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Riki: I always think it's not right, like, and it's.
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Dwight: Yeah, you have the belief it's not right. That's part of getting what you want. You get to do the right thing by not speaking up and making people feel uncomfortable, see? You get to be the good girl by not doing the wrong thing.
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Riki: Yeah.
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Dwight: Right? No?
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: That's part of your comfortable world.
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Dwight: Well, you just described it, and you're still inside it.
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Riki: Yeah…
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Dwight: You just described the bars.
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Dwight: You described the cage, but you haven't stepped outside.
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Dwight: You describe the cage thinking that it is a cage, but in some sense saying it's a fake cage, but you're still not stepping outside of it.
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Dwight: So you're still acting.
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Dwight: Like it's really there.
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Dwight: Yeah, that's part of being in the cage.
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Dwight: Even being so "wise" as that.
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Dwight: It's just sophisticated and neat how you're able to fool others and yourself.
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Dwight: "Well, I'm in jail, but…" you say...
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Dwight: "I guess I deserve it or something, or I've got to be in here so I don't make other people uncomfortable." you're thinking...
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Dwight: Bullshit!
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Riki: I see, I see.
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Riki: I still believe this, you know, just…
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Riki: Even though I know that…
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Dwight: No, you see, see, that's more, that's more of the same.
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Dwight: Just notice, it's just more of the same.
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Dwight: Until…
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Dwight: Until it's not. I mean, it's possible.
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Dwight: to actually step out.
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Dwight: But that's.
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Dwight: That's not talking about anymore. That's doing.
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Dwight: All this is just talking about.
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Riki: Oh, good.
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Dwight: All this is.
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Dwight: Inside the cage.
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Dwight: There's an old saying, I don't know if you know about the…
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Dwight: ...psychoanalysis, it's is the original therapy developed by Sigmund Freud. Okay? And so he became popular. And then but the whole point of it is, you know, the therapist just listens and listens for years and years of the patient just talking, talking, talking about their problems.
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Dwight: And so, they do 10 years of psychoanalysis, and the patient says, well, I know every… I know everything about why I'm unhappy, and I'm still unhappy.
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Riki: Oh, yeah.
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Dwight: See, you're like that. You know everything about why, but you're still unhappy because...
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: No fucking action!
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Riki: Yeah, yeah.
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Dwight: All "understanding" and no action. That's not, ultimately, that's not real understanding.
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Dwight: I mean, you call it real understanding. It looks like real understanding. Others can be very fooled into thinking you understand.
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Dwight: But if…
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Dwight: But can you say you really understand?
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Dwight: If you don't take action.
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Dwight: Or you just be happy. Then you're just totally happy with where you are.
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Riki: No, no, no, I'm not. I don't have.
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Dwight: Yeah.
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Dwight: No, but no, yeah, we can't do that, right?
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Riki: Yeah.
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Dwight: Why not? Oh, no. See, you think you can have it both ways. You can't have it both ways, lady.
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Riki: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Riki: Ugh.
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Dwight: Next time we talk I'm wondering if you'll just be silent again. I don't know whether you're going to talk or not. We'll see.
05:28:38 --> 05:28:39
Riki: Okay.
05:28:40 --> 05:28:43
Dwight: And even if you do talk, maybe you'll just talk about talking.
05:28:43 --> 05:28:48
Dwight: You won't talk about doing. Or even if you talk about doing, you won't do. So whatever.
05:28:48 --> 05:28:51
Dwight: But I'm always happy being with you regardless of whether you do your pretending you don't know stuff or whether you get your ass in gear. .
05:28:53 --> 05:28:55
Riki: Okay.
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Riki: Bye.
05:29:15 --> 05:29:16
Dwight: All right.
05:29:28 --> 05:29:31
Dwight: Anything you want to say except goodbye?
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Riki: I will, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will, you know.
05:29:36 --> 05:29:37
Riki: Yeah.
05:29:38 --> 05:29:39
Riki: just a…
05:29:39 --> 05:29:42
Riki: Think not. Not think more. Maybe.
05:29:43 --> 05:29:47
Riki: Think how to figure this problem, figure out this problem.
05:29:47 --> 05:29:49
Riki: No, I just…
05:29:52 --> 05:29:55
Dwight: You already know what to do. There is no more figuring.
05:29:58 --> 05:30:04
Dwight: I mean, you don't know everything, but you know the first step. You know something you could do always.
05:29:59 --> 05:30:00
Riki: Yeah.
05:30:04 --> 05:30:07
Dwight: That's going to be stepping outside the cage.
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Dwight: outside the bars.
05:30:10 --> 05:30:13
Dwight: You always know that, whether you do it or not.
05:30:16 --> 05:30:17
Dwight: Okay.
05:30:17 --> 05:30:19
Riki: Okay.
05:30:19 --> 05:30:22
Dwight: Tune in next time. Bye-bye.
05:30:21 --> 05:30:23
Riki: Yeah, yeah.
